Darron Gibson and Lee Martin are the first youngsters to go out on loan
http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid={B4CEE8FA-9A47-47BC-B069-3F7A2F35DB70}&newsid=477764
I liked the look of both of these in the youth team but it looks to me like Gibson has more of a chance at United, Martin didn't progress as much as we had hoped last season, saying that he has talent so if he can get a good season behind him , maybe there is still a future for him at old trafford.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/plymouth_argyle/7029837.stm


Craig Murrays blog is back online
http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/


Johann Hari on our electoral system and how it can be skewered by one rich man aiming his vast wealth at the minority of seats that affect the outcome of elections under our first past the post electoral system. Maybe the events of last week will see gordon brown and the labour party bite the bullet and bring a bill in to fight the next election under a proportional representation electoral system, that's if there is still enough time to do it, before the next election.
http://comment.independent.co.uk/columnists_a_l/johann_hari/article3038466.ece